o_O;

[Flugigo]

[censored] (12:55:09 PM): I'm downloading Fahrenheit 911 !!!
Flugigo (12:55:19 PM): lol
[censored] (12:55:29 PM): u find that funny?
[censored] (12:55:40 PM): I shud send a virus to ur photoshop
Flugigo (12:56:01 PM): >_>;
Flugigo (12:57:07 PM): Are you serious? o_O;
[censored] (12:57:18 PM): ur photoshop is going down
Flugigo (12:57:39 PM): I do have it on a disc.. o_O;
[censored] (12:57:50 PM): Are you sure
[censored] (12:57:56 PM): how do u know I didnt already kill the dis
[censored] (12:57:57 PM): disc
Flugigo (12:58:06 PM): Yeah, it's right there. I can see it.
Flugigo (12:58:20 PM): It's not in the drive.
[censored] (12:58:37 PM): but theres a virus in it
Flugigo (12:59:18 PM): How so? I installed it before I even knew you.. o_O;
[censored] (12:59:48 PM): Your playing mind games with yourself
[censored] (12:59:50 PM): Photoshop=going down
[censored] (12:59:53 PM): thats final
Flugigo (1:00:05 PM): o_O;
Flugigo (1:03:57 PM): It's still running..
[censored] (1:04:51 PM): hehe
[censored] (1:04:54 PM): just wait
Flugigo (1:05:10 PM): If you say so.

Then, he started on with this.

[censored] (1:06:25 PM): hey
[censored] (1:06:30 PM): for NarutoGallery
Flugigo (1:06:38 PM): Um, hey.
[censored] (1:06:38 PM): cud u rename those things soon
[censored] (1:06:38 PM): :-P
[censored] (1:06:46 PM): so I know when u add new images
Flugigo (1:06:53 PM): I PMed you about how I need help.
[censored] (1:06:53 PM): cuz I wanna be able to back them up
[censored] (1:07:05 PM): pmed?
[censored] (1:07:12 PM): on narutocafe?
Flugigo (1:07:19 PM): Yeah, at Naruto Cafe
[censored] (1:07:28 PM): ok
[censored] (1:07:33 PM): lemme check

THis conversation is still going on. I'll update it periodically..

[Rykon]

Uhm.. cool.

[WarDragon]

First one is just strange

and the second one I am just confused

[Geo]

Go team?

[YuYu]

Rite. So, anyone watch anything unusual on tv latley?

[WarDragon]

Same crap, commercials

[Rykon]

I watched that Omarosa, that girl, has a 1-900 number. Cool. Lets go call it.

[Infernus]

Dumb

[Metal Soldier]

Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.

[YuYu]

Originally posted by Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
It isn't? Fuck, I gave my dad my $9 for nothing. :angry:

[Invader]

Originally posted by Rykon@Jun 28 2004, 03:14 PM
I watched that Omarosa, that girl, has a 1-900 number. Cool. Lets go call it.
Your fired..

[Heavy_P]

Michael Moore is a douchebag as well is that guy in the conversation.

[Mondracon]

Inbreeding is a terrible thing! Don't let it happen to you!

[Ningen]

Originally posted by Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?

[Mondracon]

Its called BUGS-- Big Unsubstatiated Generalizations. They are the one-sided, shallow commentary of the masses-- the Devil makes them do it.

Actually explaining WHY it wasn't worth seeing would take thoughtful consideration. Or just thought.

ZING

(Cause Laguna used it, and its nifteh.)

[Invader]

Because, Micheal Moore is making people who are unsure about everything thats going on and taking advantage of them by them going out to see this movie..

[Ningen]

Originally posted by Invader §J Goku@Jun 29 2004, 01:56 PM
Because, Micheal Moore is making people who are unsure about everything thats going on and taking advantage of them by them going out to see this movie..
That makes no damn sense. if they can't make up their minds they could just as easily listen to everything the Bush Administration has to say and then side with them. Michael Moore's not forcing anyone to see his movie.

[Mondracon]

Hah! So what about the Supreme Court? Do you think they all had to go watch F911 to decide whether or not the detainees at Guantanamo should have their Civil Rights respected despite the Bush Administration?

[Invader]

Come on, society nowadays would rather see a movie than listen to the Bush Administration....

[Mondracon]

The worst part of our media is this...

I look up the top stories today...and it SHOULD be the Supreme Court Ruling because it deals with US Citizens Civil Liberties but NOOOOOO! The front page news is all about the stupid Internet Porn Case!

And you wonder why Americans are a bunch oh uninformed yahoos? Their media serves them only gossip and rubbish, not the important facts.

[Ningen]

Originally posted by Invader §J Goku@Jun 29 2004, 02:03 PM
Come on, society nowadays would rather see a movie than listen to the Bush Administration....
And that's Michael Moore's fault? What's stoping the Bush Administration from putting out a film of their own? Hell, they already have a ton of television spots that condemn John Kerry.

[Invader]

Well first off they would have to put an R rating due to Cheneys reactions..

[Ningen]

And the problem with that is? You have to be 17 years old to view an R-rated film. You need to be 18 to vote. What difference does the R-rating make?

[Mondracon]

Because if you are only 17 or 18 you can't get roaring piss-ass drunk as most people do when politics finally become a part of their everyday life.

I don't see a problem personally, either way. If Bush or Pro-Bush supporters would make their own movie I'd see that too. I try to examine all sides before making a decision in anything.

[Metal Soldier]

Originally posted by Ningen+Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ningen @ Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that? [/b][/quote]
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel.

[Flugigo]

Originally posted by Metal Soldier+Jun 29 2004, 11:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Metal Soldier @ Jun 29 2004, 11:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel. [/b][/quote]
Wow, completely and utterly owned Moore there... =O

[Stacy]

Well, I can see the debating hasn't changed around here, lol.

[Rykon]

Hey! Youre alive! Cool!

[YuYu]

Originally posted by Stacy@Jun 29 2004, 06:21 PM
Well, I can see the debating hasn't changed around here, lol.
Yo. B)

[misst]

Originally posted by Metal Soldier+Jun 29 2004, 02:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Metal Soldier @ Jun 29 2004, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel. [/b][/quote]
thank you master of the bloody obvious.

[YuYu]

Originally posted by misst+Jun 29 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (misst @ Jun 29 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Metal Soldier@Jun 29 2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel.
thank you master of the bloody obvious. [/b][/quote]
Whaddup dawg. B)

[Invader]

Originally posted by Yu Yu+Jun 29 2004, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Yu Yu @ Jun 29 2004, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by misst@Jun 29 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Metal Soldier@Jun 29 2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel.
thank you master of the bloody obvious.
Whaddup dawg. B) [/b][/quote]
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WHEN MR. SMILEY IS STUCK IN A MICROWAVE!! :microwave:

[YuYu]

Originally posted by Invader §J Goku+Jun 29 2004, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Invader §J Goku @ Jun 29 2004, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Yu Yu@Jun 29 2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by misst@Jun 29 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Metal Soldier@Jun 29 2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 11:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metal Soldier@Jun 28 2004, 06:15 PM
Kick him in the balls. F9/11 isn't worth watching.
And why's that?
Because its a rambling mess of a movie that has no point other than to bash President Bush. No where does Moore come close to having anything that important to say. A quick summary of the film is as follows:

Bush stole the election
Bush knows the Saudi Royal Family & bin Laden family do to business ties
Iraqi war is bad
Get sympathy by showing casualties of war including a dead toddler, a kid getting shrapnel taken out of his head, another kid with his arm blown completely open where you can see everything that it is composed of, etc.
Make soldiers look like assholes because a few of them admitted that battle was an major adrenline rush
Make military recruiters look like scum who only go for minorities and the poor
Use a soldier's death and the grief of his family to generate sympathy for the soldiers
Show a crowd of Iraqi's dragging two burned and charred bodies, then hanging them up and beating them

Etc, etc. The whole film is outright propoganda, which I knew going into it. However if I wanted that much bullshit, I'd go to a dairy farm and get a shovel.
thank you master of the bloody obvious.
Whaddup dawg. B)
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WHEN MR. SMILEY IS STUCK IN A MICROWAVE!! :microwave: [/b][/quote]
Quiet nub!!11 :angry:

[Invader]

:(

[Ningen]

Flugigo, Metal Soldier didn't own Moore. He said the movie was bullshit and gave a summary. How is that owning someone?

Metal, I still don't see your point. If Moore provided facts to argue his case and it's outright propaganda, then how is that any different from any sort of political campaign? Hell, even without facts it'd be the same as a political campaign.

[Flugigo]

Flugigo, Metal Soldier didn't own Moore. He said the movie was bullshit and gave a summary. How is that owning someone?


Yeah, figured someone would say that, I was in one of those moods.. =P

[Tsosczb]

Based on there arguments, the movie seems like propoganda about propoganda. It looks kind of funny though! http://www.dbzhevan.com/news//smillies/push.gif

[Ningen]

I'll be going to see it simply to see the clip with Bush playing golf.

Bush: "I call upon the nations of the world to do everything in their power to hunt down these terrorists. Thank you. Now watch this drive."

Classic.

[Metal Soldier]

Originally posted by Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 05:13 PM
Flugigo, Metal Soldier didn't own Moore. He said the movie was bullshit and gave a summary. How is that owning someone?

Metal, I still don't see your point. If Moore provided facts to argue his case and it's outright propaganda, then how is that any different from any sort of political campaign? Hell, even without facts it'd be the same as a political campaign.
My point is that it isn't worth the time it takes to watch it. There are no solid facts, no real claims made, just a lot of inference that Moore strings together to make it look like Bush didn't really care about bin Laden and that all he's interested in is getting richer. If it had been able to provide a cohesive arguement then maybe it would deserve some of the merit and praise it gets.

[Ningen]

Originally posted by Metal Soldier+Jun 30 2004, 03:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Metal Soldier @ Jun 30 2004, 03:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ningen@Jun 29 2004, 05:13 PM
Flugigo, Metal Soldier didn't own Moore. He said the movie was bullshit and gave a summary. How is that owning someone?

Metal, I still don't see your point. If Moore provided facts to argue his case and it's outright propaganda, then how is that any different from any sort of political campaign? Hell, even without facts it'd be the same as a political campaign.
My point is that it isn't worth the time it takes to watch it. There are no solid facts, no real claims made, just a lot of inference that Moore strings together to make it look like Bush didn't really care about bin Laden and that all he's interested in is getting richer. If it had been able to provide a cohesive arguement then maybe it would deserve some of the merit and praise it gets. [/b][/quote]
Well see, that's where the confusion came in. I've heard all over the place that Moore uses credible evidence. In fact, on the Late Show, Letterman asked him if it'd be possible for a supporter of Bush to disprove what Moore says in the film, and Moore said no because all of his sources were legit.

Ebert & Roeper also said that Moore made good arguments and provided evidence for those points.

[Mondracon]

I won't know it till I see it. There are facts everyone knows about Bush-- such as the abuses of US Civil Liberties under his administration, and how convenient it was that his business friends are getting wealthy off the Iraq War.

I'm sure its not a perfect presentation of the truth-- NOTHING is. All history is skewed by the opinions and emotions of those who present it and so its never totally accurate. Its only the level to which personal feelings and political agendas twist the truth that determine whether or not something becomes propoganda.

Of course I am going to see it-- and though I'm not sure who I am going to vote for...

I KNOW WHO I WON'T BE VOTING FOR. RIGHT NOW! LAST YEAR. AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT.

[Flava]

ningen is right.

ininpa got a point though. propaganda about propaganda, sounds interesting :D